Lewisham Way pub reopening set to be decided
Reopening a pub on Lewisham Way in New Cross is set to be decided with a licensing hearing held today.
The pub closed last year and Wellington are now seeking to reopen the Flower of Kent with serving times at:
- 10:00 – 23:00 Monday to Wednesday
- 10:00 – 23:30 Thursday
- 10:00 – 02:00 Friday & Saturday
- 12:00 – 23:30 Sunday
Pub conditions
In addition “the outdoor space at the rear of the premises is to be closed for licensable activities and to all patrons at 21:30 hrs, except for smoking.”
“From 21:30hrs, only 4 people are allowed in the rear outdoor space to smoke at any one time, and 5 people are allowed in the front of the premises to smoke at any one time.”
A number of objections have been made citing prior anti-social behaviour while a comment in support has also been given.
Lewisham Council’s Licensing Committee will decide tonight.
I’ve been using the pub for nearly 40 years and there was no antisocial behaviour people are only jealous, and make up stories about this wonderful place
If these are the conditions for this pub, why is this not applying to other places in new Cross,there’s no problem it’s like a church, people do not like to see people of colour enjoying themselves.
The conditions required are the same at pretty much every pub eg security people on doors if open until 2am. Standard rules as is needing CCTV, not taking drinks into street, gardens closing at certain time etc. Go take a look at all the other licensing meetings it’s nothing unusual but standard practice. Only places that may differ are perhaps those that havn’t sought a new license in the past 20 years but even then, pretty unlikely and as soon as they sought changes they’d have same conditions. No idea where you got your conclusion from but not backed up by any evidence and easily disproved.
I agree with Vinel and have used the pub for many years too! There is no anti social behaviour. And the limit on the pavement is ridiculous. New Cross pubs have lots of people on the pavement – why not offer the pub a bit of the pavement, after all it is wide enough! Stop closing vibrant pubs in vibrant multi cultural areas and let people enjoy themselves please. Discrimination and racism is still rife in England. Recent riots and just look at the compensation for the wind rush generation, which is still clearly continuing and ongoing in everyday lives of many people of all ages today, and it does, yes it does, include the closure and or licencing restrictions of the pub in Lewisham Way! Doesn’t it????
If you can’t see this or agree with my comments you are clearly delusional – nowhere has 5 just 5 people on the pavement.
Not sure if this is doable or a legal precedent – but can the users of a pub that the customers are being discriminated against sue the local authority or licensing authorities? Anyone legal minded care to comment please?
I agree with the above comment and like Mr Moore have been using this wonderful pub for more than 40 years, I pass the new cross tavern many a weekend and see 30 to 40 people outside at 1 time, I seriously disagree with the other comment , I drive for a living and pass many licensed premises and always see more than 5 people at 1 time smoking outside on the pavements. It would be nice to have our community hub back in business.